Tuesday, February 02, 2010

The horror - deliberation leads to horror

I'm reading Infotopia. Twitter notes (while they last).

Deliberation leads to polarisation and extremism. And group decisions based on deliberations often result in no better result than a simple vote without deliberation. This is because new information is almost always rejected by the group, preferring instead to stay with "common knowledge", and/or cascading decisions like groupthink. Deliberation strengthens this bias, often resulting in worse group decisions than by a straight non-deliberative vote!

He who controls common knowledge (or sub conscious) controls everything!

omg.. the horror.. reading on...


rlubensky said...

I am wary about collectivist sentiments in promoting deliberative democracy. But read closely and you will find that what Sunstein calls "deliberation" is nothing more than debate and argument, without appropriate facilitative guidance, and without participant acceptance of the invitation to respect others in dialogue about difference, to genuinely strive for an outcome that appeals to the common good. In both public and stakeholder deliberation, there is no bonefide group to groupthink, so that is a red herring, surely. Sunstein is a stirrer.

Leigh Blackall said...

I thought that also. although he does reference Habermass and "ideal speech situation". which requires much of what you point out. But I think Sunstein is pointing out that our democratic, parliamentary, and jury systems lack just that.

Steven said...

Hi Leigh in the context of this post this is a good presentation on the vulnerability of people to group think manipulation for good or bad through knowledge of human nature and collectivism.
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